
As President Trump sends troops and marines to Los Angeles to quell anti-ICE demonstrations and flirts with invoking the Insurrection Act against protesters, we look back at the protests of 2020, when Trump last talked about invoking the act. Back then, there was broad energy around rethinking policing, but polls show that that energy has largely vanished. In this episode, we ask: what happened? Our guest points to one clear contributor: copaganda – or pro-police propaganda – and he says that the people most susceptible to it are liberal, educated elites.
This episode was hosted by Gene Demby and B.A. Parker. It was produced by Xavier Lopez and edited by Dalia Mortada and Courtney Stein. It was engineered by Kwesi Lee.

Felecia Phillips Ollie DD (h.c.) is the inspiring leader and founder of The Equality Network LLC (TEN). With a background in coaching, travel, and a career in news, Felecia brings a unique perspective to promoting diversity and inclusion. Holding a Bachelor’s Degree in English/Communications, she is passionate about creating a more inclusive future. From graduating from Mississippi Valley State University to leading initiatives like the Washington State Department of Ecology’s Equal Employment Opportunity Program, Felecia is dedicated to making a positive impact. Join her journey on our blog as she shares insights and leads the charge for equity through The Equality Network.